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Apr 15 2004, 01:17 PM
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Site Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 6,105 Joined: 28-March 04 From: Australia Member No.: 1 |
Abc of Cricket has a pretty good guide to Common Terminology used in cricket, of course it is not exhaustive and if you note a term that has not been included, please tell me or better still, write the definition so I can post it in the guide.
To view the guide to Common Cricket Terminology click the following link: Common Cricket Terminology |
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| Guest_chinaman_* |
Apr 25 2004, 01:13 AM
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Ok, here`s one;
Flying Duck: What a batsman achieves when he is (run) out without facing a delivery. A very special feeling, as Rahul Dravid knows well. In addition, a proposed correction; to the best of my knowledge, the first bowler known to bowl a flipper was Clarrie Grimmett. Benaud was taught the delivery by fellow leggie Doug Ring. |
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Apr 26 2004, 02:58 PM
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Site Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 6,105 Joined: 28-March 04 From: Australia Member No.: 1 |
QUOTE (chinaman @ Apr 25 2004, 01:13 AM) Ok, here`s one; Flying Duck: What a batsman achieves when he is (run) out without facing a delivery. A very special feeling, as Rahul Dravid knows well. In addition, a proposed correction; to the best of my knowledge, the first bowler known to bowl a flipper was Clarrie Grimmett. Benaud was taught the delivery by fellow leggie Doug Ring. Mate, never heard of the flying duck term. Is it specific to a country? As for the flipper, better find me some historical evidence of it, or I am forced to leave it as it is. The only reference I can find points to Benaud. His "flipper" was so named because of its extended loop and extra bounce off the pitch. I have found anecdotal evidence that Grimmet invented the delivery but nothing solid. |
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| Guest_chinaman_* |
Apr 28 2004, 02:20 AM
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"The flipper was originated by Grum during that Babylonian Captivity of his, and he used it to good effect in his record-breaking last season before the Second World War. He passed it on to men like Bruce Dooland and Cecil Pepper."
From Bill O`Reilly`s 1980 wisden obituary for grimmett, archived at www.abcofcricket.com: http://uk.www.abcofcricket.com.com/db/PLAY...TT_CV_02000449/ I am aware that this could be regarded as anecdotal, but O`Reilly was a fellow wrist-spinner and shared the spin duties in the aussie test side with grimmett for several years. With regard to the "flying duck", it may be a UK term, but I`m not aware of an alternative name for this highly entertaining event. Are there any other sports where a top performer can be removed from the game, within a couple of minutes, through no fault of his own? |
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| Guest_Big Mac_* |
Apr 28 2004, 10:02 AM
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I dont' believe there's an official term for being dismissed without facing a ball. I've heard it referred to by some as a diamond duck or a platinum duck as well. Not heard flying duck before though
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Apr 28 2004, 02:12 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dedicated Member Posts: 1,324 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Sandton, Gauteng Member No.: 3 |
Never heard of "flying duck" before. Just a "duck." The term "golden duck" seems to have drifted in since my playing days - meaning first ball duck.
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Apr 28 2004, 02:22 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dedicated Member Posts: 1,324 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Sandton, Gauteng Member No.: 3 |
I notice that "batter" and "batsman" have been left out> I wonder what they mean and what the difference is? (IMG:http://abcofcricket.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Apr 29 2004, 05:39 PM
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Site Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 6,105 Joined: 28-March 04 From: Australia Member No.: 1 |
QUOTE (Stirer @ Apr 28 2004, 02:22 PM) I notice that "batter" and "batsman" have been left out> I wonder what they mean and what the difference is? (IMG:http://abcofcricket.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hm! Guess I probably should include batsman (IMG:http://abcofcricket.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I think batter is a term probably more approriate to baseball. I have heard it used in cricket, but my guess is that it was actually mis-used. |
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Apr 29 2004, 05:46 PM
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Site Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 6,105 Joined: 28-March 04 From: Australia Member No.: 1 |
QUOTE (chinaman @ Apr 28 2004, 02:20 AM) "The flipper was originated by Grum during that Babylonian Captivity of his, and he used it to good effect in his record-breaking last season before the Second World War. He passed it on to men like Bruce Dooland and Cecil Pepper." From Bill O`Reilly`s 1980 wisden obituary for grimmett, archived at www.abcofcricket.com: http://uk.www.abcofcricket.com.com/db/PLAY...TT_CV_02000449/ I am aware that this could be regarded as anecdotal, but O`Reilly was a fellow wrist-spinner and shared the spin duties in the aussie test side with grimmett for several years. With regard to the "flying duck", it may be a UK term, but I`m not aware of an alternative name for this highly entertaining event. Are there any other sports where a top performer can be removed from the game, within a couple of minutes, through no fault of his own? I can't actually find any reliable reference to who or where the flipper originated, so I think to be fair, I will add Grimmet as an addition to the term flipper and hope that one day Mr Benno or like tells me if he did or didn't. Mate, as for the flying duck, I think you're pulling my leg. No-one has heard the term, Pom or not. |
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Apr 30 2004, 05:09 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dedicated Member Posts: 1,324 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Sandton, Gauteng Member No.: 3 |
On the "batter" thing, I've heard it used freely by commentators and international cricketers during interviews. It's not a term I like. I prefer "batsman". But "batter" seems to be quite common - probably a term switch-around from bowler ... you know, I'm an allrounder, both a batter and a bowler.
On the Flipper thing. I had always thought that Richie Benaud invented it. He used it as a surprise ball that he developed during a tour of England. I read that somewhere, a long time ago. Also, on Murali's "doosra" thing ... Hugh Tayfield (an "offie") used to bowl a ball like that, but it was never given a name. It was just described as "turning the other way". Tayfield got it to turn (not as much as I saw Murali do today against Zim) but it had a sort of forward nip to it as well. |
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