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	<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:35:33 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>Indian Team - Twenty 20 World Cup</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2395</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Will the Indian team clinch the title once again..the team looks strong with RP and Jadeja added in the side.<br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:59:02 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>All The Greats Of 53</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2324</link>
		<description>please visit the memrabilia section and read about the offer not to be missed kind regards whiterose</description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:48:51 -0600</pubDate>
		<guid>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2324</guid>
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		<title>My Judgement On Judge Hansen</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2292</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<b>Firstly</b>, Hansen all but called Clarke and Hayden liars. His point that neither could remember other words spoken except the slur imply that they made it up. He is saying that their memory is "contrived".<br /><br />His opinion that the standard of proof required under the code of conduct of players should be somewhere between "balance of probabilities" used in civil cases and "proof beyond reasonable doubt" used in criminal cases. And that says one thing:<br /><br />the balance of probabilities are that Hayden and Clarke are lying and/or there is a reasonable doubt that they are not telling the truth.<br /><br />Keep in mind neither have backed away from their initial statements.<br /><br /><b>Secondly</b>,Hansen takes the side of Harbhajan on the start of the incident. He claims that Harbhajan was not trying to stir things up in his contact with Lee.<br /><br /><i> "Mr Singh <b>had innocently</b>, and in the tradition of the game, acknowledged the quality of Mr Lee's bowling. That interchange had nothing to do with Mr Symonds but he determined to get involved and as a result was abusive towards Mr Singh. Mr Singh was, not surprisingly, abusive back." </i><br /><br />In the "tradition" of what game? What tradition is there that has opposition Test players giving each other high five-type exchanges when they play well? <br /><br />Hansen gives no proof for this "innocent" assertion. In fact, Harbhajan had spent the whole series trying to stir the pot with the Aussies. He had already riled them that game with his histronics about Ponting. Even Roebuck had written about Harbhajan's misbehaviour on the field at that point and attempts to niggle the Australian team. I'm not saying he was directly inviting Symonds to have a go at him, just that it would jave been consistent with his character that he was trying to psyche opposition players out any way he could.<br /><br />Really, there was no real need for this partisan defence of Harbhajan by Hansen. He could have accused Symonds of needlessly buying into the niggle without declaring Harbhajan innocent of playing mind games. It just shows where Hansen is coming from.<br /><br /><b>Thirdly,</b> Hansen takes the view that racial slurs are not all that offensive:<br /><br /> <i>"But in my view even if he had used the words "alleged" an "ordinary person" standing in the shoes of Mr Symonds who had launched an unprovoked and unnecessary invective laden attack would not be offended or insulted or humiliated in terms of .."</i><br /><br />You see, its all Symonds fault. Not only did Symonds invite a racial slur, but also he should not be offended by one.<br /><br /><b>Lastly</b>, <u>Mr Hansen's get-out clause for letting Harbhajan off the hook:</u> Hansen claims in his finding that he hadn't all Harbhajan's prior infringements to consider. <br /><br /><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->[66]    I need to add something about the penalty I imposed.  ......  After the penalty was announced I was made aware that in fact there were three further matters I had not been informed of.  <br /><br />67]      .....    It was simply human error that led to the Level 1 offence in November 2005 not being made available.  None of these three offences were advised to Mr Jordan and because of that he was not in a position to advise me of them.  Other counsel did not alert me to this information during the sentencing process. ..... ..if I had been aware of the serious transgression in November 2001 I would have required more extensive submissions as to the offence in mitigation which could have led to a different penalty.....  Regrettably I have concluded that I cannot do so and the penalty imposed by me must stand.  At the end of the day Mr Singh can feel himself fortunate that he has reaped the benefit of these database and human errors.  But judicial experience shows that these are problems that arise from time to time.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Well, well, well. How convenient, Mr Hansen. Please tell us why we should not  believe you  that you put this in just to cover your arse. They do say no-one lies better than legal folk. I find his excuses on sloppy paperwork unconvincing. I find a motivation <i>not to know </i>about about Harbhajan's priors to be probable. He needs to tell us excactly how it was he knows about Harbhajan's priors AFTER his judgement. Seems pretty vague and convenient to me.<br /><br />Hansen tells us he can't believe Hayden and Clarke. I can't say I believe him! Reasonable doubt, and all that.<br /><br />He had a counsel to get that type of information, but somehow his counsel couldn't be bothered. Or wasn't "told". Or was misinformed. Or got mixed up.<br /><br />Hansen could have googled this stuff up himself. <br /><br />It is very difficult to accept that he could not have this information. It is not beyond a reasonable doubt that he did NOT WANT TO KNOW about that information as it would have forced hime to suspend Harbhajan.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:04:06 -0700</pubDate>
		<guid>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2292</guid>
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		<title>The Adelaide Test</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2288</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I cannot read the tea-leaves on this one, boys.<br /><br />I'll be barracking for my team, for sure. But your guess is as good as mine. <br /><br />Is Tait ready?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:14:05 -0700</pubDate>
		<guid>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2288</guid>
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		<title>Correction: It Is War!</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2285</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<b>DATELINE - 1960 Rome Olympics:</b> "Sorry Herb, but the Australian press has just turned on you. Unsubstantiated stories are circulating about you. The English track coach has publicly attacked you and our press believes him completely for some reason. A recent poll shows you are now the most unpopular sportsman in Australia. Your parents have reported anonymous threats and fear for their safety. GOOD LUCK WITH TOMORROW'S RACE, HERB. REMEMBER, NO-ONE CARES ANY MORE.":D <br /><br />What do they do with traitors in war?<br /><br />John Bertrand, Herb Eliot, and the rest of you Surrender Monkeys and Tokyo Roses, you reading this? LOL<br /><br />Seriously, it is war. But in a civilized way. That's cricket. India played a classic hand. They should be congratulated.<br /><br />First it tried to disarm us by making us ashamed of our success. Our team did not deserve the last Test. Our team are cheats. The world is against India. Pity on poor India. <br /><br />The weak-headed amongst us made up reasonable rational arguments to support this. And that made these muppets feel all urbane and "international"... and ever so even handed. You could point out that, yeah, Ponting and Clarke weren't cheats. That decisions went against Australia too. Big ones. You could tell them the games WERE played in good spirits. You could tell them anything. But their reply:<br /><br />"But Ponting shouted at Tony Greig. Thats worse than Hitler!"  <img src="http://abcofcricket.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />  <br /><br />Elite former sportsmen were giving uninformed comments attacking the current crop of cricketers. Attacks that if they received in the middle of their glory days it would surely have affected them.<br /><br /><br />And did you hear that story about the Test cricketer (un-named) who abused a patron (un-named) in a pub some time (date not given). It must be true! Those arrogant so-and-so's!!! Grrrr!<br /><br />Meanwhile national pride in India was bursting. Their team universally supported in their country.<br /><br />India was playing for their country at the WACA.<br /><br />Who the hell was Ponting playing for?<br /><br />We played the part of Carthage to India's Rome. <img src="http://abcofcricket.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /><br /><br />I believe the Australian team were as flat as pancakes for the first two days and Ponting's decision making was below par. I don't blame them.<br /><br />What do you think]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:12:39 -0700</pubDate>
		<guid>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2285</guid>
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		<title>Australia And The Surrender Monkey Syndrome</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2279</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I looked at the papers today, and this time its Mike Whitney getting stuck into Ponting's men. Yet another player, along with Greg Matthews whom we all wonder how the hell they ever got more than one cap for Australia. <br /><br />Whitney and Matthews should remind us that losing is bad. We sure did a lot of that when they were players. Back in the day.<br /><br />Whitney says its all Symonds fault. Roebuck tells us the Australians are behaving terribly. Matthews pans Ponting. Betrrand tells us Ponting's behaviour is below par. This from a guy who cheated with a winged keel and got drunk on champagne the day he won.<br /><br />Geoff Lawson, who once had G. Greenidge threaten to break every bone in his body for abusing him while we walked off after being given out attacks the current crop of players for sledging. Tony Grieg, that arrogant ex South African who once famously (infamously?) told the West Indies he would have them grovelling at his feet, has had a go at Ponting too.<br /><br />John Bertrand knows squat about cricket. So too Herb Eliot. How do I know?! Because - except for Harbhajan - both teams have behaved impeccably in the first two Tests. Find one thing Roebuck wrote that was derogatory of Ponting's men behaviour in the Indian Tests prior to his ridiculous "Ponting must be sacked" article.<br /><br />The Indians are laughing up their sleeve. So they should. Our former elite athletes and journos are acting like General Pétain welcoming the Germans into Paris. Its embarrassing.<br /><br />Our press stands by idly while Kumble in his disgraceful post-match interview strongly hints that Ponting and his boys are cheats. The Indian press and their general population are in a fury, feeding of the half truths from their media. <br /><br />No-one has looked at the Clarke catch. Nor have they remembered why Ganguly said it was not a catch. Let me refresh: Ganguly claimed that it bounced before Clarke got it. Ganguly is on record as saying that is why he stood his ground. <br /><br /><b>I will offer a million bucks to anyone who can find a video that shows the ball bouncing before it comes to Clarke.</b> My money is safe because if you take the time to view it over and over you can see, even on the grainy video the ball is clearly dropping into Clarke's hands and not on the bounce.<br /><br />On this alone Ganguly and Kumble should be crucified (figuratively) by our press. Instead Clarke and Ponting are made to look like cheats. Its disgusting.<br /><br />Since when did gutless become a synonym for unbiased?<br /><br />Australia, and not Ponting, should be ashamed of itself.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:18:12 -0700</pubDate>
		<guid>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2279</guid>
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		<title>Poor Little Chappie</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2212</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hello sweets<br /><br />It would appear that another of those darling little australian fellows has hit a spot of bother. If I could grant the little darling Shane Watson 3 wishes from my magic genie bottle, then I would give him a little bit of spunk, some gorgeous yellow panties and make him my bitch forever. he's the most gorgeous little man I've ever laid eyes upon and I can seriously understand why some of you errant australian fellows have your eye on him.<br /><br />Love and Kisses<br />Julian]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:30:25 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>No Kallis?</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2177</link>
		<description><![CDATA[What do you all think about leaving Jacques Kallis out of the Proteas squad? I was fairly surprised actually, because he's a really good all rounder, up there with Freddie. His batting innings do take a start rather slow though, which isn't good for 2020. But I think his bowling will be missed in World Cup.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:11:53 -0600</pubDate>
		<guid>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2177</guid>
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		<title>Happy Australian Day!</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2289</link>
		<description>Yay</description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:38:58 -0700</pubDate>
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		<title>Do You Need To Oil An English Willow Bat?</title>
		<link>http://abcofcricket.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2178</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Is it necessary to oil an English willow bat with raw linseed oil? I've heard from some people that they're seasoned already, but I just want to make sure. Also, is it necessary to knock in an English willow bat with a mallet? I think it is, because the new bat I've gotten is a little dead in the toe and I think I can make the middle better also. However, I've heard from more than one person that both of these aren't necessary.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:16:13 -0600</pubDate>
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